Thursday, 11 February 2016

What a real Kosher agency looks like

Melbourne's Kosher Australia has broadcast a "Webinar" called Getting to Know Kosher.  This is an initiative that certifying agencies in America have undertaken to inform the public about issues in Kashrus, reasons for certification etc.

The first Webinar from KA features Rabbis Moshe Shreck and Ephraim Baskin discussing how KA goes about certifying factories - in a fair amount of detail.  Unfortunately there were issues with the sound and I am sure this and other technical issues will be rectified in future broadcasts.  In any case go to 1:45 to start viewing.




It goes without saying that "It's Kosher" does not let the public know about their certifying methods. I doubt that they have the expertise of Kosher Australia or any of the other genuine Kashrus agencies in Australia.

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  2. So great to see that proper certifying agencies deal with facts, and are open and honest.
    Kol Hakavod!

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  3. This whole saga is unbelievable.
    The 11 most prominent local Rabbis sign a proclamation, same as leading Rabbis from overseas that it is forbidden to raise herds of Ben Pekuah for commercial purposes.
    One fellow, who calls himself Rabbi (but has never substantiated it) who has a history of theft, deception, giving supervision plus selling Matzot that was chametz on pesach, made a phone Beth din to convert someone, comes along and opposes all rabbis, who all have communities unlike himself who has nothing.
    This would be ok for Purim but it's still too early for that.

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  4. Sorry! Meant PHONY Beth Din.....

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  5. 100% correct.

    Couldn't have written it better myself!

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  6. Kosher Australia would have at least 15 people working for them, while It's kosher has only Rabi and Gradman. They also spend considerable time marketing themselves and their products.
    Also many hundreds of hours of video, as they use cctv for their diaries, lord of the fry any many other establishments.
    Something doesn't add up?

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  7. Diaries or dairies?

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  8. The problem with it's kosher is that it is a business, unlike all the other Kashrut providers.
    When a rabbi gets the profits rather than a fixed weekly wage from a board, serious breaches in kashrut occur as we are experiencing.

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  9. If anybody says something is kosher and it is found that it was blatantly not kosher with dishonesty it should be handled by consumer affairs same as when Gradman stole the premiums when he was selling insurance, and be banned to deal in this field ever again.

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  10. Sad that we can't clean up our own mess.

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  11. Apparently Rabi has said if this Ben Pekuah business falls through, he will loose at least $400,000

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  12. It is no excuse to try to get people to eat Treif so you can line your pockets.
    This is shameful.

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  13. Reading The Australian Jewish News today I came across the article re Ben Pekuah.
    When I read what Rabi has to say re the 11 Australian leading Rabbanim supporting overseas Rabbanim in not accepting Ben Pekuah and seeing the typical Rabi response that he know better than all, it confirmed what a lowlife he is.

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  14. Meir Rabi said he accepts any and every rabbi in the world as long as they say what suits his business.

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  15. Rabi's comments to the Jewish News warrants him being put into Cherem.

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  16. if the Rabbonim would have shown some leadership and would have put Rabi into Cherem when he sold his own chometz soft Matzos then the huge chillul hashem of this big shot behaving towards Rav Arye Steinman, Rav Chaim Kanievsky, Rav Nissan Karelits, Rav Hershel Shechter and all the other many poi skim in the most disgusting disrespectful manner.
    The Kovod of Gedolei Yisrael is being attacked by this gangster for his own personal profits.
    Nowhere else could this happen.
    Rabi should not be allowed into any shule and he should be driven out of this town before he further corrupts those whose yiddishkeit is shaky. His contempt against our Torah leaders can no
    Longer be tolerated.

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  17. 100%!
    But unfortunately Rabi has sold his soul to the Satan.
    As Mr Nixon confirmed Rabi will get for marketing Ben Pekuah at least $400,000!

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  18. Apparently his father has been pleading with him to stop this war against Kashrus that he is waging.
    He told his father if his father gives him $400,000 he will give it up.
    His father (a yekky) said NO and is very angry.
    Rabi's 2 elder brothers offered him quietly $100,000 each as their father is very upset at this saga.
    Meir said $400,000 nothing less.
    Even Rabbi Rudzki had more Yirat Shamayim than this.

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  19. I agree Rabi is a crook, but so are all other Rabbis as well.

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  20. How dare you compare Rabi to Rabbonim who are honest and correct. They need to put up with all Rab's abuse and chutzpah just because Rabi has no idea what humility and respect mean.
    There is a reason that nobody can work with him besides his crooked partner Gradman.

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  21. my brother in law was in one class with Meir at Yeshiva.
    I am told he was extremely stubborn and never wrong.
    Doesn't seem he has changed much.

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  22. Nobody will convince me otherwise, I believe all rabbis are a shifty bunch. Even if Rabi is more shifty then the rest.
    Do you think Rabbi Genande would be much better?

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  23. You are talking nonsense!
    Genande is a very modern Rabbi, but he is not dishonest, he doesn't twist words of Reb Chaim Kanievski, doesn't say he knows better than Rav Shteinman and dozens of prominent poiskim.
    He doesn't make money by trying to sell treif and call it Kosher.
    He would never convert anyone.
    There is no comparison!

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  26. Did Rabbi Genande ever steal money from Kollel Beth HaTalmud?

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  27. So suddenly Genande has become a Tzaddik.
    Genande is closer to conservative than to orthodox.

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  28. This blog was set up to let the public know what Rabbi Meir Gershon Rabi and his businesses are doing to destroy accepted standards in Kashrus and highlight his dishonesty and his total disregard to the senior Rabbonim of our generation.
    Rabbi Genande is not involved in Shechita and Kashrus.
    He does not travel the world taking selfies of himself with leading Rabbonim trying to fool people that these are his colleagues.
    Meir has been asked many times who he has seen his semicha as well as who are his shochtim and mashgichim but so far Rabi has been too arrogant to even reply.

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  29. It seems Rabi will never change.
    He seems the type who loves fighting and is very stubborn.
    Add the huge money he is making and his ability to put a spin on everything to suit his business I fear this problem will not go away anytime soon.

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  30. Even if Ben Pekuah would be acceptable to the leading Rabbonim, it would still not be acceptable as Rabbi Rabi has no credibility and nobody knows who are his Shochtim and Mashgichim.

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  31. i spoke to my rabbi on shabbat he mentioned to me not one orthodox Jew will accept rabi as he is not a rabbi and he his dishonest

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  32. ben Pekuah meat uses Shochet Weis from Adass and others of a similar calibre.

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  33. Bernie! This is what Rabi claims on his webpage as part of his propaganda but it is a pure lie.
    Shochet Weis does NOT shecht Ben Pekuah. It is true that he did on one single instance but he refused to ever go back as many aspects troubled him. Including that DNA confirmed that non Ben Pekuah animals were found to be in between the 100% pure Ben Pekuah herd. There were many other issues including Rabi falsely claiming the meat is Parve and problems with Mashgichim.
    These anonymous Shochtim of similar calibre is more fairy tails from Rabi.

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  34. Geoffrey Bloch only takes prestige partners, both at home and in business.

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  35. Is Meir Rabi going to convert Geoffrey's girlfriend?

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  36. What has Bloch's girlfriend got to do with all this?

    I don't think she is the Shochet!

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  37. Maybe the reason that it is top secret who the Shochtim are, is that Bloch's girlfriend is the Shochet!!!!

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  38. If Rabi's peak is that a shiksa can shecht than that is the Halacha and all the worlds poiskim just don't know the Halacha.

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  39. Any hechsher who claim they have never made a mistake and their Kashrut is the best is problematic.

    Rabi even defended when he produced and sold soft matzos under his own hechsher that was found to be chametz. A Rabbi cannot function if he is "full of himself".

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  40. In the Haggadah we learn that the Rasha (wicked son) does not accept Halachah as given, but chooses to do his own thing. So as punishment for excluding himself from the community and its leaders the Haggadah says to break his teeth.
    My Rabbi said after a shiur why punish the Rasha with removing his teeth?
    Now we can understand. When you exclude yourself from accepting Halacha as determined by our Rabbis then as we see Kashrus becomes a business where Kosher becomes what suits the Rasha. So if the Rasha's teeth are gone he cannot sin by eating treif that easily.

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  41. Laibel!
    You and your rabbi are both crazy.

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  42. And what is Freddy and Meir Rabi?

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  43. It is before Purim.
    In the end Hashem saves kllal Yisroel for those who stand up for their own power and ego to break our derech.
    But as long as we follows our Rabbonim and totally ignore those enemies of Torah as Meir Rabi who has the chutzpah to oppose what the Gedolim have proclaimed we will overcome this latest Rosho.

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  44. So why is Rabi the biggest issue facing world Jewry since world war 2?

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  45. No Torah true Jew is allowed to keep silent when somebody calling himself Rabbi can write all over the Internet and in the press that what all leading Rabbonim are saying is nonsense and he knows better.
    Trying to say that what Rav Chaim Kanievsky writes means nothing as he doesn't really mean it but was forced to write cannot be tolerated.
    All from a man who can't show his simcha.

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  46. I think you meant SEMICHA!

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  47. But you forgot some other good deeds of Meir Rabi!
    Eg.
    Stealing money from Beth HaTalmud
    Selling Chametz Matza for pesach
    Falsely using Rabbi Abraham letter for self promotion
    Etc. etc. etc.

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  48. what about the worst of them all?

    FAKE CONVERSION OF A NON-JEWESS

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  49. We must give credit were it is due to the good Rabbi!

    No other Rabbi in Australia can take such good selfies as Rabbi Rabi can.

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  50. Also judging by Rabi's Facebook page he is miles better than any other Rav in Australia.
    Facebook proves that Rav Meir Gershon is far better and bigger than Rav Chaim Kanievski and Rabbi Beck who don't even have Facebook pages. So I would never rely on a Rav who hasn't got a Facebook page.

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  51. This sad saga is no joke.
    Rabi is a real problem, not some kind of joke.
    Let's stay serious please.

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  52. Bernie from New York17 February 2016 at 05:30

    What is the meaning that it's kosher uses the official Israeli coat of arms as their certificate?

    Rabbi Rabi is at least putting Australia on to the map ��

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  53. Putting Australia on the map- but for the wrong reasons.
    The chutzpah that Rabi showed to Rabbi Yair Hoffman was embarrassing. Rabbi Hoffman is an outstanding Talmid Chochom who has authored 13 seforim on Halacha. Unlike Rabi he has no biases or personal interests and Rabi treated him terribly just because Rabbi Hoffman proved that Rabi is mistaken re Halacha of Ben Pekuah.

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  54. Rabbi Dovid Lichtenstein, a serious Talmid Chochom interviewed Rabi on NY radio.
    He explained the reasons in Halacha why nobody in the USA would touch Rabi's Ben Pekuah meat.
    Rabbi Lichtenstein said the only benefit Rabi has achieved is that people will maybe learn about the concept of Ben Pekuah, although in USA nobody would actually buy it.

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  55. What I don't understand is even if Ben Pekuah would have been acceptable there are still many other issues!
    Who would eat from Rabi's Shechita- after all his past problems.
    Who are the Shochtim- Mashgichim
    Is it really Parve?
    Gid HaNasha
    Etc.

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  56. Maybe my 11year old son when dress up this Purim as the biggest Godol in the world.
    Need to get him a straw hat and a camera for selfies.

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  57. That's a good idea.
    Suitable for Purim!
    Could my son also be the biggest Godol in the world??

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  58. This Purim we might be getting Parve Ben Pekuah ice Cream from the ice cream truck.

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  59. Ice cream truck/Pope mobile

    Is the Parve Ben Pekuah ice cream going to also be Chalav Yisrael by using cameras that don't even need to be watched!

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  60. That Rabi has cameras covering all positions at each farm where they milk for his 'so called' Chalav Yisroel and this footage is actually watched is pure hog wash!

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  61. Every supermarket sell A2 milk.
    You would need at least 10 full time Mashgichim monitoring all the cameras at over 30 farms.
    The only person Meir Rabi is cheating is himself!

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  62. I feel so sorry for his poor children.

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  63. I hear his son in law from Manchester, Pruin is planning to move away from Melbourne due to his father in laws behaviour.

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  64. All his son in laws are openly critical of Rabi's practices. His son Naftoli is a little wishy washy.
    His brother Zev does not eat anything from the it's kosher hechsher, same as parents who do not eat meat at their sons home.

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  65. Who cares what the Rabi family do or don't do!
    It is pathetic discussing every member of this family.

    Get yourself a life!

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  66. Freddy grow up!
    It is important for all to know how those who know Meir Rabi the best treat his Hashgacha and if they feel he is reliable.

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  67. I wonder if a Rabbi who ridicules Chalav Yisrael (like Rabi does on the Internet) is trustworthy to claim on a product Cholov Yisroel?

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  68. The problem is NOT cholov Yisroel.
    What about
    Fake conversion??
    Selling and eating chometz matza on pesach??
    Dishonest claims in name of Gedolim??
    Operating under at least 3 fictitious names??
    Will not accept anybody in Halacha but himself??
    Etc. etc..

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